Shirin Neshat, Jamie Fobert, Dr Nicholas Cullinan | Frieze Masters Podcast

The second episode, On Display, is now available, presented in collaboration with dunhill and the National Portrait Gallery

in Frieze Masters , Podcasts | 01 DEC 23
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In On Display, artist Shirin Neshat is in conversation with Jamie Fobert, the architect of London’s newly reopened National Portrait Gallery, and its Director, Dr Nicholas Cullinan, moderated by Tim Marlow, Director of the Design Museum. Neshat reflects on her 2018 portrait of Nobel Peace Prize awardee Malala Yousafzai that was commissioned by the National Portrait Gallery. The conversation explores the history of this much-loved institution and how its contemporary meaning is shaped through its program, its work with artists like Neshat, and in the very fabric of its building.

You can also find this episode on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

 

I think what we ended up capturing is the true Malala, which is exactly that kind of paradoxical quality that I see in every human being: the sense of confidence, defiance, strength, pride, yet absolute vulnerability, fragility, insecurity. –  Shirin Neshat 

 

Shirin Neshat is an Iranian-born artist and filmmaker living in New York. Jamie Fobert is a London-based architect and designer whose projects include the recently completed National Portrait Gallery, London. Dr Nicholas Cullinan is Director of the National Portrait Gallery, London. 

Find works discussed in this episode here:

Shirin Neshat, Malala, 2018, gelatin silver print & ink. Credit: © Shirin Neshat; 
courtesy the artist and the National Portrait Gallery

Behind the scenes of Shirin Neshat working on portrait of Malala, 2018. Photo: Giulia Theodoli

Ross Place Entrance and the new forecourt at the National Portrait Gallery, London. Photo: © Olivier Hess

The Creativity, Conflict and the Crown display at the National Portrait Gallery, London. Photo: © Gareth Gardner for Nissen Richards Studio

The Blavatnik Wing at the National Portrait Gallery, London. Photo: © Jim Stephenson

Installation view of The Weston Wing at the National Portrait Gallery, London © National Portrait Gallery, London

The Contemporary Collection in the Mary Weston Gallery in the Weston Wing at the National Portrait Gallery, London. Photo: © David Parry

A vista through the Romantics display through to Queen Victoria by Sir George Hayter (1863) at the National Portrait Gallery, London. Photo: © Olivier Hess

Shirin Neshat, Installation view of The Fury video at Gladstone Gallery, 2023. Courtesy the artist and Gladstone Gallery

The New Entrance Hall at the National Portrait Gallery, London. Photo: © Olivier Hess

The Portrait Portrait Portrait!!! display, featuring Portrait of Mai (Mai) by Sir Joshua Reynolds (1776) at the National Portrait Gallery, London. Photo: © Dave Parry

The National Lottery Heritage Fund Gallery at the National Portrait Gallery, London. © Dave Parry

About Frieze Masters Podcast

The Frieze Masters Podcast is now available, bringing you our annual programme of live talks – the Frieze Masters Talks programme – curated by the Director of the National Portrait Gallery, Dr Nicholas Cullinan. These conversations between leading artists, writers, museum directors and curators all reflect the ethos of the Frieze Masters fair: looking at the past with a contemporary gaze. 

The Frieze Masters Talks programme and the Frieze Masters Podcast are brought to you by Frieze in collaboration with dunhill, the foremost British luxury menswear house.

Listen now on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

This podcast is a Reduced Listening production. The producer was Silvia Malnati and sound engineer was Andy Fell.

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